In the 2012-2013 season, there will no longer be one NBA team in the State of New York. The Nets, formerly of New Jersey, have moved to Barclays Center in the borough of Brooklyn and have put together a formidable team that will rival what the New York Knickerbockers will put on their floor this year. We will discuss the changes that were made in these two teams, their fundamental differences, and their outlooks for the season.
For starters, competition is good. New York is a state with eight million people and for decades it has been a one basketball team town. This is a state that at one time housed three baseball teams simultaneously; the Brooklyn Dodgers, the N.Y. Giants, and, of course, the N. Y. Yankees. Currently in California there are four NBA teams; the Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, and Kings. So why not have two NBA teams in New York?
Certainly the timing couldn’t be better for the Nets to have made their move. The Knicks have been been struggling for quite a while, winning only one playoff game in over a decade. They haven’t won a championship in almost 40 years! However, it won’t mean that Knick fans will suddenly change their allegiance and become Nets fans either. Remember these are the same loyal fans who have gone through a long stretch without a winning team but want it so badly that after winning game four in the first round of last year’s playoffs, they threw confetti and gave their players a rousing- standing ovation inside a packed Madison Square Garden as if they had just won the NBA Championship!

This was the scene at Madison Square Garden following the Knicks 89-87 win over the Miami Heat in game four of the playoffs last year; their first in 11 years! Photo: KnicksNow
So what have these two teams done in the off-season to better their chances at having stellar seasons this year? Well the Brooklyn Nets biggest move was in picking up SG Joe Johnson from the Atlanta Hawks, giving them arguably one of the top three back courts in the NBA. Entering his thirteenth year in the league, Johnson has career averages of 17.8 points, 4.2 rebounds, 4.4 assists, and just under 2 threes per game. Besides Johnson, and the Nets two draft picks Teletovic and Shengellia, they also acquired G C.J. Watson and big time rebounder F Reggie Evans. Leaving the Nets were four guards; Anthony Morrow, Gerald Green, Jordan Farmer, & DeShawn Stevenson along with Forward Jordan Williams and Center Johan Petro.
They still have one of the premier PG’s in the league in Deron Williams. The problem with the Nets has been their defense, which is surprising as they play for a defensive minded coach in Avery Johnson. In the last two years they were 21st and 29th in the league in defense. They will need to do better than that if they are looking to get to, and go deep in, the playoffs. Their center Brook Lopez (who is a candidate to be traded this midseason) is a scorer but not a great defender. F Gerald Wallace had more RPG than Lopez and opposing big men usually do well against him. Kris Humphries just isn’t athletic enough to do much except rebound. (He averaged 9.2 points a game last year). And Marshon Brooks can light it up from beyond the arc.
To sum up this year’s Nets team, they have a great coach, a good GM, a good bench, and one of the best back courts in basketball which could be good enough to get them at or near a playoff berth this year. A side note…two Nets players have part of the city in which they’ll play in their names; Brook Lopez and Marshon Brooks. Just sayin’..

These are the starting five for the Brooklyn Nets: (from L-R) Joe Johnson, Kris Humphries, Brook Lopez, Deron Williams, and Gerald Wallace. Photo: helmetgame.com
As far as the Knicks are concerned, this is a team with a whole host of question marks attached to them. They opted to change courses and unload players who were inexperienced and not savvy like G Jeremy Lin, F Landry Fields, and G Toney Douglas and instead stock themselves with highly experienced ones who know how to play ‘smart’ basketball. Players, (most of them who are a couple of years shy of joining AARP) like C Marcus Camby, F Kurt Thomas, and G Jason Kidd.
Coach Mike Woodson, now in his second year as head coach, has what the Nets lack; and that’s a strong defensive team with last year’s Defensive MVP C Tyson Chandler, Thomas, Camby, and, G Iman Shumpert, when he returns sometime in December or January from tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee, the same injury that took place literally hours after it happened to G Derrick Rose on April 28th. J.R. Smith, who will start in Shumpert’s place, has an opportunity to shine if he can play consistent basketball.
One of the question marks surrounding the Knicks season involves the health of some of it’s players. In particular F Amar’e Stoudemire who, in the past four seasons, has missed 70 games with injuries to his back, groin, and knees. He is already expected to miss the first three weeks of the season. Then there’s the concern of the older players being able to play 20 minutes a night over an 82 game schedule and any post-season action that may follow.
PG Raymond Felton who averaged 11.4 points and 6.5 assists last year with Portland, returns to the Knicks who he played for in 2010 and who thrived under coach Mike D’Antoni. The problem is without the pick and rolls he was used to back then, and with more Carmelo Anthony ISO’s, Felton might struggle to put up the kind of numbers that he did in his first stint with the Knicks.
To sum up this year’s N.Y. Knicks team, they have a good coach, a good bench, and with a healthy Stoudemire, an above average front court. They also have some key role players in Kidd, Camby, Brewer, Novak, and Prigioni. There should be no reason why they don’t finish somewhere around 6-7th when all is said and done, depending on all their question marks…We’ll get a better sense of how these two teams will fare when they go up against each other at Barclays Center in Brooklyn on Thursday, November 1st.
Are you buying to the Nets? Personally , I believe they will be good but I can’t see them mounting a serious challenge within the Eastern Conference . Joe Johnson has yet to contribute anything meaningful to a team over the course of his career . And now the Nets are on the hook for over $60 million left on the remaining years of his contract .
In terms of the Knicks that is a franchise , whose make up at the core has more in common with a home filled with geriatrics ________ and a now broken down Amare’ Stoudemire , who will be lost to the team for the next two months .
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No, however I think the Nets will be competitive and finish at or near the 8th spot. As far as money owed to Joe Johnson there is also a kings ransom due to Brook Lopez and I’m not sure there’s anyone out there that will want to pick that up. But their owner prints his own money whenever he needs it. They won’t be holding a charity for him anytime soon..
The Knicks will definitely make the playoffs but I fear they will be in and out of the first round without much success depending on what seed they get. I think they will be competitive when matched up vs the Celtics but haven’t a prayer vs the Heat.
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Nets’ owner Mikhail Prokhorov spent millions to purchase the Nets and also fund the cost to build the franchise’s new arena (Barclay Card/Atlantic Yards) . That being said they’re still a long way from where they need to be .
In terms of the Knicks , as a I alluded to they’re too old at their core to really compete , much less go deep into the playoffs . The front office is simply bereft of ideas and that has been clearly shown with the idiocy that they are prepared to rehire Isiah Thomas. This being the same dumb a#s who cost the franchise millions having been found guilty in a civil suit concerning the sexual harassment of a female employee . The Celtics are a far better team than the Knicks from a competitive and player standpoint . As can be seen by how they went about their off season in terms of the draft and free agency acquisitions . And by the way , the Knicks as a team are woefully inept defensively and amongst the worst in the Eastern Conference .
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You don’t have to be a Nets fan (I’m not) to be excited about their move to Brooklyn. The City Game is going to rock now that NY has a legit rivalry with the Nets move into the boroughs. I cannot wait to see the place, the new unis’ the whole scene. Very exciting.
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The city is just too big not to have at least two teams..Looking forward to the competition.
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While excited , it’s probably a great venue (Barclaycard Center) to catch a Jay z or Beyonce’ concert . As to the team who knows ? NYC has a real and Jersey has a real credibility issue when it comes to their professional sports’ franchises outside of the New York Giants . The rest have simply sucked in recent years . Yankees are getting old and it shows . Mets remain a joke ! Bills , they’re still circling their wagons. The Jets, well l based on yesterday’s comedic exhibition , Tebow , Sparano and Sanchez should be part of the mass unemployed . In the NHL , well let’s put it this way , four labor stoppages and two decades , sums where that sport is going , and why it is once again on the decline . The union and league hierarchy of hockey are simply bereft of intelligence .
While the Knicks have James Dolan (owner) in charge, they will never be competitive .
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The Knicks will be competitive but they are not going to go deep into the playoffs this year.
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MY MAN thank you for an objective look at both teams and yes I agree on both points on the competition and that New York is big enough for two NBA Teams. Just for the record the Nets are the second team to play in Brooklyn currently (Brooklyn Cyclones are the first) and in 2015 the Islanders will be the third team. Nice job my friend. We should try to hook up and go to a Nice game to check out the competition. LOL
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